"... Weight Loss Surgery and diet support groups,
message boards, forums and chat rooms,
are often supported,
hosted and/or moderated by weight loss,
pharmacerutical and bariatric industry interests...
...The members-only groups are more vulnerable
to manipulation,
as these intimate groups
are less publicly visible or accountable...
...In some instances, the hosts and moderators
may be true converts who believe in what they are promoting
and may or may not be even aware of their own biases;
other times the moderators
are marketing professionals...
...Not surprisingly, the focus for many of the bariatric sites
are to keep prospective patients motivated
and help them get insurance approval
for bariatric surgeries.
They sell false hope,
and the exclusion of nonbelievers
and contrary information
leads to cult-like devotion
among the members...
...The information at many of these online portals
is largely provided by the bariatric and weight loss companies
and paint overly optimistic pictures
of successes
of whatever they’re selling and downplay risks.
... just like the disease blogs
that Dr. Oransky mentioned.”
I remember getting kicked off an online forum for not towing the "party line".
One moderator even asked, "Do you think you're going to turn the whole bariatric community on it's head?"
Yes.
I thought so back then and I think so now.
WLS is not the "tool" it's cracked up to be.
It's surgery.
It screws up what nature did perfectly already.
The whole WLS system is based on the belief that without the "tool" of surgery
we'd be left to our own will
and since we're admitting that our will is weak by seeking surgical help
we need to turn over our lives to a system.
The system just happens to be a multi million (is it billion by now?)
industry that profits off of folks who have been convinced that there is no where else to turn.
Once we're surgically altered the system proceeds to convince us that the only suitable foods
are those de-natured, manufactured products made especially for the "bariatric community".
The very people who need real nourishment the most are being duped
into believing that industrial shakes and overly processed protein bars
are the only foods we should be eating,
cuz after all they're made for our "special needs".
Ugh.
It's such crap I can't even begin to tear it apart.
Well, I CAN begin to tear it apart but right now I need to get back to work.
Like work work.
Class tonight.
Do I even have my slides ready??
Ah!!!
To be continued!!
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I can tell you from having been INSIDE a few cults in my lifetime
that the WLS Bariatric Community is very, very cultish.
How do you know you're involved in something cultish cult like or an outright cult?
If some, many or all of the following apply
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2 comments:
Oh, you mentioned the Frankenfoods. I had forgotten how that was one of the things that I got worried about when I considered WLS. I saw so many blogs and posts of people subsisting on protein shakes/bars/snacks, stuff with a host of fake ingredients, super-processed. I thought there was something very creepy about this. I mean, I even tried some stuff to see if I could live on those if I got WLS, but most were horrid. I mean, those Oh Yeah bars Melting Mama loves I thought were gross. Most of the protein shakes are gross. (I buy some to use pre-workout, cause of my reflux, I can't eat solid foods and exercise vigorously and upside down, hah), but I use those for extra protein, not to live on.
I also became aware of what you caution about: the way that dissenting voices are marginalized and criticized, instead of saying, "Well, let's hear what those who are not enchanted or who have obstacles have to say, as this is a reality for some/many." Just looking at the positive is as foolish as just looking at the negative. I like a rounded, honest picture. And only honesty and openness will let us see if this is a valid tool for ANYONE...or if it's a mass delusion.
I really want to know what's the truth of this WLS stuff, for myself and others.
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I seriously considered WLS after my doctor said that it was my only option to lose the amount of weight I needed to(since then, I've gotten another doctor), but I was declined by my insurance. I think that was a blessing, because I have been working on the reasons as to why I turned to food in the first place.
Instead of having my insides rerouted, I have rerouted how I handle my emotions and control my binges. It is a hard process, but it has worked for me and I will have to continue to work at it, probably will for the rest of my life. And, I'm okay with that.
I just couldn't deal with knowing that I would have to have my insides hacked at and part of my intestines removed because of what I chose to put in my body and how I dealt with my emotional eating. Also, having to supplement with protein/vitamins/bars for the rest of my life, to get the proper nutrition my body needed. I didn't want to do that. Like Once Upon A Dieter, I also tried the shakes, bars and snacks, but they didn't taste all that great.
I had joined a WLS group online to find out more information about the surgery and I asked questions and asked about people who had serious issues. Those people were totally marginalized and told that "they were doing it wrong" or "weren't trying hard enough", etc., etc.
It was sad to see people being attacked because the surgery wasn't working for them or they were having medical issues. That right there showed me that there is more behind WLS than what is being shown on the media, by surgeons and doctors, and on forums.
When I mentioned that I decided that I was going to try and lose on my own, since my insurance declined me and I became nervous about the whole process, I was blasted for it and told that I would never accomplish weight loss and if I did, I wouldn't keep it off.
I have realized there was more to my weight gain and out of control eating than just "the food". I think that if I had the surgery, it would have taken me longer (if ever) to deal with those issues.
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